tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post6665961416030674770..comments2023-11-07T16:08:07.585-08:00Comments on Kingdom of God Media: ContactPat Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02397839550090715753noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-67832214610735029382008-10-04T08:36:00.000-07:002008-10-04T08:36:00.000-07:00again, i'm not saying it's a bad thing to be fanat...again, i'm not saying it's a bad thing to be fanatical... whatever you do, it's good to be be all-in, or all-out<BR/><BR/>I'm sure the book is more detailed and goes deeper into everything, but most people will see the movie and never read the book. Like it or not, most people these days prefer moving talking pictures as a medium of communication, learning and especially for entertainment. Pat Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02397839550090715753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-85344597303489105722008-10-04T00:41:00.000-07:002008-10-04T00:41:00.000-07:00Carl Sagan was NOT a fanatical athiest. I have re...Carl Sagan was NOT a fanatical athiest. I have read everything he ever wrote...every article, published paper, research piece as well as most interviews. I even had the pleasure of discussing some of this with him at Cornellon several occasions. His views on religion and the claims by people that he was some sort of militantly anti religious person or rigorously athiestic are just plain wrong..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-83984667486362449112008-10-04T00:05:00.000-07:002008-10-04T00:05:00.000-07:00Do yourself a favor and read the book. Obviously ...Do yourself a favor and read the book. Obviously the book differs quite widely from the movie; but importantly it does so on several points you've decided are key. First of all in the movie there is not just one person who meets the aliens. Second of all the book goes much deeper into the theist/atheist debate and the concepts of evidence and bible prophecy. Most dramatically, the conclusion Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-72913359880228891842008-10-03T21:41:00.000-07:002008-10-03T21:41:00.000-07:00Please, please, please people! Stop talking about ...Please, please, please people! Stop talking about what you think Sagan's point of view is <EM>based on a Hollywood movie</EM>. Read the book.<BR/><BR/>Better yet, skip "Contact" and pick up a copy of "Cosmos" or "Pale Blue Dot". You owe it to yourself to give him a fair shake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-705640091709412662008-09-02T22:18:00.000-07:002008-09-02T22:18:00.000-07:00There were several key scenes in the movie that st...There were several key scenes in the movie that struck me as some insight into Dr. Sagan's position. <BR/>There was the one point where Ellie and her friend were talking about God and she said that she required proof. His response was that he asked her if she loved her father. She of course said that she did and he replied, "prove it". He placed the onus on her to prove something that was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-7869519880589654312008-03-17T22:05:00.000-07:002008-03-17T22:05:00.000-07:00Thanks for leaving a comment about The Abyss on my...Thanks for leaving a comment about <I>The Abyss</I> on my blog. I've seen it quite a few times. I took the time to read your postings on <I>Contact</I> and <I>The Abyss</I> and you have interesting takes on both films, although I'm certainly not in agreement with all of your viewpoints. I especially cannot agree that Carl Sagan was a "fanatical atheist." The whole idea that disbelief is a form ofMark of Cascadiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08913418305867505887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-14141992061601488812008-03-15T23:22:00.000-07:002008-03-15T23:22:00.000-07:00But that's what i mean exactly... it's okay to adm...But that's what i mean exactly... it's okay to admit that a person is fanatical for one thing or another. Carl Sagan is a fanatical atheist; i say that to his credit. He has decided what he believes (or doesn't believe) which we can tell by the way he dedicates himself wholeheartedly to that belief (disbelief). <BR/><BR/>And i agree with you that experience is vital. no need being in denial ofPat Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02397839550090715753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-44378356938718936852008-03-14T21:04:00.000-07:002008-03-14T21:04:00.000-07:00I find it odd that moderns, so devoid of real stor...I find it odd that moderns, so devoid of real stories, are so ready to abandon the great story of Christianity for the more paltry and titillating story of aliens and alien contact. This latter story is something of angels clothed in modern garb. Unfortunately, try as Sagan and others might, they can't quite instill their stories of Aliens coming "To Serve Man" with same sort of hope and joy Abecedarius Rexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04389853679255968995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-44893090097003308632008-03-14T08:14:00.000-07:002008-03-14T08:14:00.000-07:00Patrick,Carl Sagan was not a fanatic atheist tryin...Patrick,<BR/><BR/>Carl Sagan was not a fanatic atheist trying to prove that God does not exist. I have read Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan in the past and learned that he did not believe that we should let our intellect be confounded by our limited ability to understand, especially not that of the religious flesh.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, Ellie in Contact experiences an anomaly represented by a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-77712451989703696002008-03-13T19:11:00.000-07:002008-03-13T19:11:00.000-07:00interesting, it didn't occur to me that her testim...interesting, it didn't occur to me that her testimony before those people was in fact a statement of faith, thx for the input rodneyPat Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02397839550090715753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6154975217436010407.post-90012779936550779772008-03-13T18:53:00.000-07:002008-03-13T18:53:00.000-07:00For me, the moment this film reached it's zenith w...For me, the moment this film reached it's zenith was the moment Ellie was asked if they (being the Government and population of the Earth) should take her "experience" with the aliens on faith. What makes this interesting is that we are ready to accept our own faith, but struggle to accept others, especially if that faith is different from our own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com